Topic: The Club House / Just starting out

Your thank you sounds sincere and these men and woman have many good advise for you, I wish you the best of luck,This may sound strange to you but here goes, the inmates will teach you the job, in your stiff suit until you learn you will be mr by the book and you will see in time the book will be more relaxed in order to work efficiently around inmates, co workers and stupidvisors. If you have a little street savy and some common sense you will do just fine in all your endeavors.

Topic: The Club House / Co-Workers

Hey Johnny pony up, this is the nature of the beast, doesn’t matter what facility you work or what patrol car your in the co workers have game and you need to know how to play the game. To many factors to consider, for example, you became friends with a co worker and you confy with this person, you may have said something about another worker to this friend, it turns out that this friend was related to this person you were talking about the next thing you know your on a sh1tty assignment for life. Send those lesbians this way maybe i can turn them.

Topic: The Club House / 20 years and out

Sorry folks, but if i lived in ohio, my moto would be CRIME PAYS, who’s doing the time the cons or the officers? I’m confused

Topic: The Club House / Batons, carried by Officers

You want stats, the jails are filled with C/O’s that got cracked with their own batons. Its a proven stat, partically in populated facilities equipment(weapons) of any kind can and will be utilized against staff. the numbers don’t lie, the officers are always out numbered in most facilities and anything can become a weapon, even the keys that they carry, especially those folger adams keys. they (c/o) should not carry batons, handcuffs or cuff keys, pocket knifes, or anything hanging from their uniforms. If keys are needed should be attached inside pocket until the need to be utilized. This means you must have a good response team, time is the important factor for success and the response team should be suited up for battle, known as bats and hats, does this help?

Topic: The Club House / Gov. Patterson

Yes, All prisioners will be on work release, somebody is got to cut his grass.

Topic: The Club House / Who is running this place?

Ladies and gentleman,
I have to agree with SGT43OHIO and especially Mudflap, most Stupidvisors don’t like to hear that their idea won’t work. You will find the best leaders started from the ground up and if they don’t fall into that politics of the job, he/she will not only listen but ask the front line troops what to look for. Many soldiers that started as enlisted men/woman become great leaders in the field of battle. The long and short of it is this, play their game and go home safe. An correction officer from new york told this some time ago and it makes sense. The more the monkey climbs the more you see his ass, great words of wisdom.

Topic: The Club House / Comebacks

As time goes on so does the technic, for example, years ago
Inmate/perp: Yo man why you dis-ing me in front of my peps
C/O or P/O : You would hear a Cracking sound from a baton/nightstick
Todays standards are as follows:
Inmate/perp : Yo man why you dis-ing me in front of my peps
C/O or P/O : Excuse me sir, I’m sorry if I offended you, how can I help you
Inmate/perp: (in a loud voice) F U Cracker where your boss be, I needs to rap with the main man
C/O or P/O: Hold on sir, I’ll try to contact him/her on the radio for you
After of a hour of back and forth the wined up is we go home fustrated and the skippy goes to see his lawyer. Thats american justice at its best, by the way this the crap they are selling in the academy

Topic: The Club House / If corrections had a slogan what would it be?

For Correction personnel their slogan should be " If it ain’t rough, it ain’t right"
For Police "rather be trialed by 12, then carried by 6
For Military “Kill them all, sort them later”
For the weak " Take a sh!t and bark at the moon"
That about raps it up folks, see you in the funnies

Topic: The Club House / Deadly Force Use

Hello fellow readers,
my favorite topic deadly force, i would like to direct this to miss chad, you now taking criminal justice so theres something pulling you into this field, ‘the calling’, as anyone who is in law enforcement will tell you its a bitter sweet relationship, you hate the the day to day life, but love it so much you wouldn’t dare leave. Don’t abandon the calling. the day may come when you have to decide to take a life in the name of justice,ask the fellow officers who took a life or better yet ask the serviceman who daily have to make that decision. Here’s how it works in the academy you are taught to use force when necessary and in the service your are taught to kill the decision will be yours, no matter what relegion you believe and you will make the right choice.

Topic: The Club House / Newbie Questions

Hello to Fellow readers,
In reviewing Mr bklynrizz paragraph i find that he adjusted himself nicely, however i find that if a instructor is teaching mechanics, maint. or cooking to the inmates, do i really want him/her to respond to help me in a situation in the facility. How many hats do you have to wear to earn a dollar and consider yourself very lucky man that nothing major happen to you and hope it never does, but think about that adjustment you made. Yes it sounds cool to jump around from state to state, but thats if wifey goes alone with that (if you can find one that agrees) You mentioned at one time you were a police officer and occasionally delt with one or two perps, thats letting me know you come from a small town/city, have you ever delt with motorcycle gangs or gangs in general or how about a major city protest and the best is race riots, the point i want to make it doesn’t matter what law enforcement job you have, weight the pro’s and con’s, that means what can you take or not take, what surroundings you would be subject to and of course the pay & bene’s that make of this worth wild for you and your family or family to be. good luck to all

Topic: The Club House / Taking Officer Exam

Well Ladies and Gentleman,
My recommendation to teyb1 is to come to New York City and take the NYC correction officer test, however I disagree with harrajc, just taking a promotional test doesn’t make you a wise and exprienced supervisor, i believe both exam and exp with a panel interview would weed out the rejects that do get promoted because of race, gender and whatever the suits believe would make a perfect supervisor. By the way I have over twenty years of exprience in law enforcement and miss teyb1 would have a fair chance taking this test. The question is this, can miss teyb1 handle the clients on Rikers ilsand, the money is fairly good with all the bene’s. I wish you all lots of luck

Topic: The Club House / best shift to learn on

There are several different schools of thought, The only way you will learn properly is to work all three tours. They all bring a true sense of the job at hand, how else would you learn if you don’t exprience for yourself. Besides if I recall, when you first starting out you were put on what is known as the wheel, a different tour every four days with two rdo’s. Each tour is something to learn, most of the time fellow officers (with good intentions) tell you what to do on certain posts, but they themselves are wrong. Read the post order folders you find on post. In early days the inmates taught you the job, believe or not, but times have changed and the job didn’t. Lots of luck

Topic: Security Central / metal from audio cassette tapes used to pick locks…

paperclips, combs, certain tooth brushes and any thin metal that they can get their hands on, by the way I’ve noticed certain people on this site state what facility they work at or what procedure they utilize in your facility (by name) do you think the cons are not watching. Are we in security??

Topic: Security Central / Placing inmates in a kneeling position

I believe it depends on the situation of the inmate, you stated disruptive, if he/she is secured with restraints, hopefully behind his/her back, they should be placed against the wall, face towards the wall a a staff member hand on his/her back securing no movement, the problem I’ve occurred with the kneeling position the officer becomes laxed thinking he/she is secured and when ready to assist helpng to pick up the inmate from the ground he/she gives a head butt to the face, followed by a kick, ouch that hurts, now you use force when he/she is handcuffed, not good for the cameras

Topic: Security Central / Transport security

Transporting any inmate can be dangerous, most of the time the medical staff in any facility don’t want the responsibility of working on the inmate,so they incur sending the inmate to outside facility. The on site doctor is usually paid the same salary if he/she works on one inmate or ten inmates so why work hard. The head of your facility should address this situation. The medical staff as well as the correction staff should not let the inmate know when he/she is going to a clinic, dental or any outside transport move until the transport personnel have the inmate secured and ready to be placed in a secured vehicle, two officers for any inmate any two officers and 1 supervisor if an escape risk. shackled to bed at all times. Check with your departmental rules and regs and your local laws. Do you know what the inmate is in for?, felony, misd. or civil offense and if he/she decides to run will you shoot him/her??? Many senarios can be different especially from state to state and are your personnel trained properly for this?

Topic: Security Central / Bus assault training

Sgt Mendoza, I’ve been in the game over twenty years and most of it was in the transportation unit, your senario seems a little gray, however the first thing is to eliminate the officer to do head count in the back of the vehicle, head counts should be perfomeed prior to entry, this should be in writting with your procedure manual. Once the gate is locked, the gate never opens until in a secure area, Sallyport, or if in the street, deploy a perimeter of officers. Medical staff should be called in if possible, because injuries will occur. Your personnel should be trained never to open the gate in transit, inmates will saciface another inmate in order to get the transport officer to open the gate. If a hostage is ever taken, no matter the rank, they have no bargan authority, if your department has a negotion officer, summon him/her. Gasing the entire bus may give you future liability problems, such as who has a severe case of asthma, heart conidition, etc, for the staff as well as the inmates and the law suites would be coming. You must determine if the hostage takers have weapons, this will let you know what kind of force you will use or how soon to make a force entry. you may want to utilize rubber bullits instead of gas or just strave them out, the choices are many, you get the picture. Hope this 411 can help you